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A Quick Post On LiFePO4 C-rate – charge, discharge and treating storage batteries right

Recently, I tested a 200 amp-hour LiFePo4 12v battery for a video review I did for my YouTube channel (Timeusb 200ah, posted on this page). Although it was not the main focus of the video itself, during the review I made some comments about C-rate and decided to expand on it here.

It is a fact that LiFePo4 batteries are one of the most misunderstood topics on the internet, with even large “expert” channels spreading and repeating false information. It’s not possible to deal with it all at once. So I’m going to try to help solar power enthusiasts directly by focusing on and providing some simple facts and truths about C-rate. The goal is to help preserve and extend the life cycle of their batteries.

The “C” in C-rate refers to Capacity in Amp-Hours. So if we have a 200 amp-hour battery, C/10 means Capacity Divided by 10.

For a 200 amp-hour battery, C/10 would equal 20 Amps. A 1C (1 x C) rate would equal 200 amps.

Based on over a decade of experience and research, C/10 has proven to be a perfectly safe rate for both Charge and Discharge of normal LiFePo4 storage batteries. As long as temps don’t drop below freezing, operating at C/10 can never harm the cells in any way.

Storage batteries (like those used for so called Off Electrical Grid, RV, camping, cabins etc.) tend to use Energy cells, not Power cells. Power cells are specially constructed to allow very large current charge and discharge – however they may give up capacity as a result. Energy cells focus on and are constructed for Maximum Capacity. Therefore, it make perfect sense that Energy cells are the most common type in the Storage Battery market.

Testing a Timeusb 200ah lifepo4 battery off grid in the solar workshop
Testing the Timeusb 200ah LiFePo4 in my workshop

It is a fact that if you are using Energy / Storage cells, regularly exceeding C/10 will shorten the life cycle of your batteries! I’ve done tests on batteries using 1C (or higher) rates just for research, knowing I was shortening the life cycle. However, the good thing is – even with this abuse, the batteries survived with only diminished performance.

But the resiliency of LiFePo4 works both ways: sure they can take a tremendous amount of abuse and still survive. But by the time the user notices degradation of capacity and performance, it’s too late. Nothing can bring the lost capacity back – it’s permanently gone.

This resiliency is one of the reasons why many LiFePo4 users think it’s OK to run 1C charge/discharge, because hey, their batteries keep on working! But when the batteries start showing problems and diminished performance later, most will probably never make the connection between that and excessive C-rate cycling.

But there must be more to the story. What exactly causes the damage in LiFePo4 batteries that are subject to excessive C-rate?

I plan to further expand on the technical knowledge behind this topic in great detail via an upcoming video on my YouTube channel – please stay tuned. I hope you found this article helpful.

Thanks for reading! -Dave, SPE

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About the Author:

DD Solar (a nickname) has over a decade of experience in solar power and renewable energy, and over 25 years of experience in the Information Technology industry. He currently operates a YouTube channel called Solar Power Edge (formerly known as DIY Solar Power Edge and DD Solar Channel) and documents some of his projects and prototypes there. (C) 2022 DIY Solar Power Edge channel / DD Solar channel / SolarPowerEdge BLOG All rights reserved. We reserve all rights.